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	<title>Comments on: Being a 30-something Single in the Church: Part VII, Attempts at Comfort</title>
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		<title>By: z</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2010/06/29/being-a-30-something-single-in-the-church-part-v-attempts-at-comfort/#comment-59605</link>
		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Run it however you want.  It&#039;s just a request, I&#039;m not &quot;telling&quot; you anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Run it however you want.  It&#8217;s just a request, I&#8217;m not &#8220;telling&#8221; you anything.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bouncer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bouncer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>max, since your comments, despite their entertainment value, are choking out serious conversation, we&#039;re going to be moderating future contributions. If they add to the conversation (instead of derailing it), we&#039;ll let them through.

z, it&#039;s bad manners to go to a blog and tell the permas how to run it. (You may recall that we object to people attempting to preside over us.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>max, since your comments, despite their entertainment value, are choking out serious conversation, we&#8217;re going to be moderating future contributions. If they add to the conversation (instead of derailing it), we&#8217;ll let them through.</p>
<p>z, it&#8217;s bad manners to go to a blog and tell the permas how to run it. (You may recall that we object to people attempting to preside over us.)</p>
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		<title>By: Katya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,

Go back to my response at 33. Read #1 in that response. It says &quot;Don&#039;t minimize real pain and grief.&quot; You are minimizing real pain and grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,</p>
<p>Go back to my response at 33. Read #1 in that response. It says &#8220;Don&#8217;t minimize real pain and grief.&#8221; You are minimizing real pain and grief.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we get max off of here?  The thing about the bruises was a step too far for me. and the condescending lecturing is really annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get max off of here?  The thing about the bruises was a step too far for me. and the condescending lecturing is really annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: max k. hale</title>
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		<dc:creator>max k. hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Danielle - (&amp; everyone else who is looking for comfort) ... the point is: you are in a club that practically everyone else is in as well - everyone has problems! There are just different divisions or classes of problems - to keep it interesting. 
The mob I feel sorriest for is the &quot;poor little rich kids&quot; who besides wealth have social acceptance &amp; good looks etc. - they have to work so much harder to find out what we already know, &amp; maybe they don&#039;t find out at all (?)
As for your &quot;suggestions to (Church) leaders&quot; ... don&#039;t bother; they already know.
The trick is to realize that the Church is into emphasizing the IDEAL rather than the REAL. They have to do that. Don&#039;t beat yourself up about not landing amongst the stars, the moon will do.
The Church makes sure the herd is roughly headed west &amp; as for strays, there will always be a few of them bellowing in the hills. My concern is that they might end up down at Temple Square handing out anti-Mormon tracts or otherwise embarrassing themselves.
Relax, enjoy. The person who seems to have it all while talking about kids &amp; husband may actually need your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Danielle &#8211; (&amp; everyone else who is looking for comfort) &#8230; the point is: you are in a club that practically everyone else is in as well &#8211; everyone has problems! There are just different divisions or classes of problems &#8211; to keep it interesting.<br />
The mob I feel sorriest for is the &#8220;poor little rich kids&#8221; who besides wealth have social acceptance &amp; good looks etc. &#8211; they have to work so much harder to find out what we already know, &amp; maybe they don&#8217;t find out at all (?)<br />
As for your &#8220;suggestions to (Church) leaders&#8221; &#8230; don&#8217;t bother; they already know.<br />
The trick is to realize that the Church is into emphasizing the IDEAL rather than the REAL. They have to do that. Don&#8217;t beat yourself up about not landing amongst the stars, the moon will do.<br />
The Church makes sure the herd is roughly headed west &amp; as for strays, there will always be a few of them bellowing in the hills. My concern is that they might end up down at Temple Square handing out anti-Mormon tracts or otherwise embarrassing themselves.<br />
Relax, enjoy. The person who seems to have it all while talking about kids &amp; husband may actually need your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to words of comfort for single members of the church, why is it that people are so narrow minded to see singleness as some kind of failing? 

All I can think is that A family with a husband and wife and children is the only measure of success with the doctrine and culture that surrounds the church. That is a wonderful state of affairs, not the 100% guarentee. Why exclude people? 

What stance can be taken within ourselves and as suggestions to leaders so people actually feel welcomed to church and like I am having an actual conversation versus cheering on the sidelines?  How do I HONESTLY approach people when all they seem to talk about are their kids and husbands or wives and all I can do is nod and be supportive... not a lot to add there/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to words of comfort for single members of the church, why is it that people are so narrow minded to see singleness as some kind of failing? </p>
<p>All I can think is that A family with a husband and wife and children is the only measure of success with the doctrine and culture that surrounds the church. That is a wonderful state of affairs, not the 100% guarentee. Why exclude people? </p>
<p>What stance can be taken within ourselves and as suggestions to leaders so people actually feel welcomed to church and like I am having an actual conversation versus cheering on the sidelines?  How do I HONESTLY approach people when all they seem to talk about are their kids and husbands or wives and all I can do is nod and be supportive&#8230; not a lot to add there/</p>
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		<title>By: Frida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lolol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lolol</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2010/06/29/being-a-30-something-single-in-the-church-part-v-attempts-at-comfort/#comment-59588</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow . . .</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t listen to them, Max.  Your comments are awesome.  Keep em coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t listen to them, Max.  Your comments are awesome.  Keep em coming.</p>
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		<title>By: meems</title>
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		<dc:creator>meems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;giggle!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>giggle!</em></p>
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