Comments on: Nacle Numbers, 2003-2008, Part 2: The Blogs

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:57:42 +0000

Ardis, I guess the problem with that is the community isn’t broad enough yet. We’d only have 2 or three major parents. Maybe a few medium ones. Cross-fertilization might be better shown by tracking the bloggers themselves: who posts where, and the personal real-world connection between them.

By: Ziff

Ziff — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:23:32 +0000

That's a really interesting idea Ardis. I haven't attempted such a figure yet, but I took your idea and ran with it to suggest that such historical links might be used in an attempt to define the Bloggernacle.

By: Ardis Parshall

Ardis Parshall — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:59:07 +0000

It would be fun to see a chart with the bloggernacle blogs represented by points, with rays between them pointing to the one or two or three older blogs that each new blog identified as its major “parents.” It would be a graphic representation of which blogs have had the greatest impact in ways other than numbers, and how the cross-fertilization of a community of blogs works.

By: Ziff

Ziff — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:27:47 +0000

Thanks, Kim, Steve, and John. I’m glad you found something interesting in this. Steve–I would love to talk to you about writing something about the whys. Similarly to your comment that BCC wouldn’t exist without T&S, certainly ZD wouldn’t exist without FMH, BCC, and T&S. FMH I think inspired us to start ZD, and all three of y’all have pushed enough traffic to us since the beginning (with sidebar links and the like) to keep our conversation going so we don’t have to resort entirely to navel-gazing.

John, that’s an interesting idea. Perhaps when combined with some analysis of the whys that Steve offers it might work.

By: John Hamer

John Hamer — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:45:35 +0000

Incredible presentation! Beautiful work and very informative for those of us who have come to the bloggernacle late. This should be published as a Dialogue or Sunstone article.

By: Steve Evans

Steve Evans — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:58:49 +0000

Ziff, incredibly interesting. I’ve often thought that what newcomers to the Bloggernacle lack is a sense of history, in particular the historical importance of T&S and the interplay between the various sites. BCC would not exist were it not for T&S, and I imagine we are not alone in that respect. If ever you want to ping me for my thoughts on the whys, I’d be happy to write something with you.

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:33:10 +0000

[...] Over at Zelophehad’s Daughters, Ziff recently compiled (by hand mind you) a tonne of data for many of the most popular group blogs in th Bloggernacle. The information is very fascinating. [...]

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:23:30 +0000

Sorry I am late to the party, but I just wanted to throw my two cents in and say you have out down yourself this time, Ziff. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.

By: fMhLisa

fMhLisa — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:06:46 +0000

oh yeah, and I too remember talking about how the oldtimers can get bored with having the same discussions over and over again . . . but I don’t know where to find it either. I think is on one of those navel gazing where is the bloggernacle/fMh headed kinda posts that we’ve done sometimes around the new year.

By: Ziff

Ziff — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:28:03 +0000

Thanks, Geoff.

Thanks, Lisa. I’m glad you enjoyed this. I’m sorry to hear the issue of lost comments was so general. I should probably be grateful that ZD is new enough that we haven’t been through many transitions to lose comments.

Truthfully, I’m not sure how long this post took. Many hours, definitely. I made a number of versions of the figures, breaking the data down different ways, before settling on these ones. But it’s all fun for me, so it may be long and slow, but it’s not a chore. It does mean that I only write five posts a year, but I guess that’s how it goes.