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		<title>By: Zeitcast for February 25 &#171; By Common Consent, a Mormon Blog</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2008/02/22/that-same-sociality-which-exists-among-us-here/#comment-52610</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeitcast for February 25 &#171; By Common Consent, a Mormon Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eating &#8212; of gingerbread figures of President Hinckley in Primary; while Amri and Brad discuss sealing (courtesy of Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters), Adam&#8217;s navel (Faith Promoting Rumor), and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eating &#8212; of gingerbread figures of President Hinckley in Primary; while Amri and Brad discuss sealing (courtesy of Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters), Adam&#8217;s navel (Faith Promoting Rumor), and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jessawhy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessawhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark IV,
I laughed out loud at your comment. I can imagine a hell of hormone-riddled teens.  Yikes. Even worse than being surrounded by scouts and Mia maids, would be to BE a scout or Mia maid for eternity.
And babies aren&#039;t that great all the time, there&#039;s always the spitting up and crying.
Maybe what I like best about babies is their newness.
I cross-stitched a quote from Mark Twain for my first son&#039;s birth.
&quot;It is not a slight thing when they, who are so fresh from God, love us.&quot;
So, maybe when we&#039;re all with God and feel His love, we won&#039;t miss the babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark IV,<br />
I laughed out loud at your comment. I can imagine a hell of hormone-riddled teens.  Yikes. Even worse than being surrounded by scouts and Mia maids, would be to BE a scout or Mia maid for eternity.<br />
And babies aren&#8217;t that great all the time, there&#8217;s always the spitting up and crying.<br />
Maybe what I like best about babies is their newness.<br />
I cross-stitched a quote from Mark Twain for my first son&#8217;s birth.<br />
&#8220;It is not a slight thing when they, who are so fresh from God, love us.&#8221;<br />
So, maybe when we&#8217;re all with God and feel His love, we won&#8217;t miss the babies.</p>
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		<title>By: C.Biden</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.Biden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the church had the answers about life&#039;s great questions? &quot;The truth about life&#039;s great questions is now restored.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the church had the answers about life&#8217;s great questions? &#8220;The truth about life&#8217;s great questions is now restored.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: By Common Consent &#187; Zeitcast for February 25</title>
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		<dc:creator>By Common Consent &#187; Zeitcast for February 25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eating &#8212; of gingerbread figures of President Hinckley in Primary, and Amri and Brad discuss sealing (Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters), Adam&#8217;s navel (Faith Promoting Rumor), and the arrival at BCC [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lynnette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I guess there is an ewww factor to being married to my sister&lt;/em&gt;

That thought has occasionally crossed my mind as well.  Forget the &quot;Jesus and Satan are brothers&quot; scandal--what about the scandal of proclaiming that all human beings are literally brothers and sisters, and then heavily encouraging them to marry each other? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I guess there is an ewww factor to being married to my sister</em></p>
<p>That thought has occasionally crossed my mind as well.  Forget the &#8220;Jesus and Satan are brothers&#8221; scandal&#8211;what about the scandal of proclaiming that all human beings are literally brothers and sisters, and then heavily encouraging them to marry each other? <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That sounds like hell to me. How can it be heaven if there are no babies? No children laughing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jessawhy,

I agree with you that babies are wonderful, and that the sound of laughing children is heavenly.

However, babies have a very significant downside:  They grow up to be teenagers.  It is safe to say that if we arise in the resurrection to find ourselves surrounded by roving packs of scouts and Mia Maids, we&#039;ll know right away that we didn&#039;t quite make the cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That sounds like hell to me. How can it be heaven if there are no babies? No children laughing?</p></blockquote>
<p>Jessawhy,</p>
<p>I agree with you that babies are wonderful, and that the sound of laughing children is heavenly.</p>
<p>However, babies have a very significant downside:  They grow up to be teenagers.  It is safe to say that if we arise in the resurrection to find ourselves surrounded by roving packs of scouts and Mia Maids, we&#8217;ll know right away that we didn&#8217;t quite make the cut.</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if I don&#039;t want to hang with my brothers and sisters and parents in the eternities?  Can I get a star on the other side of the galaxy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I don&#8217;t want to hang with my brothers and sisters and parents in the eternities?  Can I get a star on the other side of the galaxy?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we crossed the veil knowing each other as brothers and sisters... when the veil is lifted, will we not remember this to still be the case?

I guess there is an ewww factor to being married to my sister but I imagine that&#039;s largely cultural. 

(Related note: Did you guys hear about those twins in England who were separated at birth only to meet later, fall in love and get married? If they can do it here, why not in Heaven?)

Anyway, I don&#039;t have an answer to K&#039;s questions. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we crossed the veil knowing each other as brothers and sisters&#8230; when the veil is lifted, will we not remember this to still be the case?</p>
<p>I guess there is an ewww factor to being married to my sister but I imagine that&#8217;s largely cultural. </p>
<p>(Related note: Did you guys hear about those twins in England who were separated at birth only to meet later, fall in love and get married? If they can do it here, why not in Heaven?)</p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t have an answer to K&#8217;s questions. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the pulpit, a 91 year old woman who still dyed her hair violently red, spoke about her deceased first husband ( to whom she was sealed), and her feisty, current, second husband Frank, to whom she was not sealed.

&quot;I&#039;m hoping that every once in a while, I&#039;ll be able to sneak out the back door of my celestial home to come over and snuggle with Frank. After all, he still needs me!&quot; Maybe there&#039;ll be some free-love going on...

I really believe we will still be the same people (isn&#039;t that doctrine somewhere?), with the same love and desires. I&#039;ve heard the refrain repeated several times that the actual ordinance of sealing itself is more important than the &quot;who&quot; of makes up the union. I don&#039;t portend to understand what that means, but I&#039;ve heard it enough from local and regional leaders that I wish I understood more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the pulpit, a 91 year old woman who still dyed her hair violently red, spoke about her deceased first husband ( to whom she was sealed), and her feisty, current, second husband Frank, to whom she was not sealed.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m hoping that every once in a while, I&#8217;ll be able to sneak out the back door of my celestial home to come over and snuggle with Frank. After all, he still needs me!&#8221; Maybe there&#8217;ll be some free-love going on&#8230;</p>
<p>I really believe we will still be the same people (isn&#8217;t that doctrine somewhere?), with the same love and desires. I&#8217;ve heard the refrain repeated several times that the actual ordinance of sealing itself is more important than the &#8220;who&#8221; of makes up the union. I don&#8217;t portend to understand what that means, but I&#8217;ve heard it enough from local and regional leaders that I wish I understood more.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that our experience here is only a tiny slice of life, a glimpse, maybe and that our understanding is limited.  We might take our relationships with us, but the way heaven operates, and/or the spirit world, is, for the most part, incomprehensible.   That belief is one of the reasons I can accept the truthfulness of the gospel while I see incongruities.   I also believe that God is ultimately fair and if something doesn&#039;t make sense in terms of justice, perhaps He&#039;ll cut us humans more slack than we cut ourselves or each other.

I have a friend who was married for 25 years to a man she dearly loved.  He died of cancer and she re-married eight months later, to a wonderful man who we&#039;d all been friends with for years.  He and his wife had divorced.

She&#039;s been married to this man for, oh, about 16-17 years, very happily.   In many ways, he&#039;s more of a soulmate than her first husband.    She wondered once who she would live with in the Celestial Kingdom and I said, &quot;your first husband.&quot;  She looked at me for a minute and I added, &quot;God is fair.  You were sealed to your first husband, you made the promise and it would not be fair to deprive him of his wife because  he died a young man.&quot;

She still looked skeptical, but it made sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that our experience here is only a tiny slice of life, a glimpse, maybe and that our understanding is limited.  We might take our relationships with us, but the way heaven operates, and/or the spirit world, is, for the most part, incomprehensible.   That belief is one of the reasons I can accept the truthfulness of the gospel while I see incongruities.   I also believe that God is ultimately fair and if something doesn&#8217;t make sense in terms of justice, perhaps He&#8217;ll cut us humans more slack than we cut ourselves or each other.</p>
<p>I have a friend who was married for 25 years to a man she dearly loved.  He died of cancer and she re-married eight months later, to a wonderful man who we&#8217;d all been friends with for years.  He and his wife had divorced.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s been married to this man for, oh, about 16-17 years, very happily.   In many ways, he&#8217;s more of a soulmate than her first husband.    She wondered once who she would live with in the Celestial Kingdom and I said, &#8220;your first husband.&#8221;  She looked at me for a minute and I added, &#8220;God is fair.  You were sealed to your first husband, you made the promise and it would not be fair to deprive him of his wife because  he died a young man.&#8221;</p>
<p>She still looked skeptical, but it made sense to me.</p>
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