Comments on: Why I Don’t Want to Believe in Heavenly Mother

By: Zelophehad’s Daughters | A Critique of “The Two Trees”

Zelophehad’s Daughters | A Critique of “The Two Trees” — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:17:52 +0000

[...] a Heavenly Mother—but I think this is largely unrealized. (If you want to know my concerns, see this post.) I also want to note that many of those mainstream Christians who do not believe in a gendered God [...]

By: Immortality: Distinctions and Confluences Between Feminist Theology and Mormonism « Feminism and Religion

Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:10:14 +0000

[...] I am put off by the idea that I as woman might be eternally giving birth to spirit babies, and the status of Heavenly Mother – my immortal role model – is angst inducing if I sit down and think about it for very long. But in my positive moments, I have some hope that [...]

By: finding my clitoris « Missionary Position

finding my clitoris « Missionary Position — Sun, 22 May 2011 17:24:45 +0000

[...] message of “it’s special so don’t let anyone go there” is kinda like how LDS feelings about Heavenly Mother: so sacred we don’t talk about her and she becomes taboo. (Though, thankfully, that taboo [...]

By: Zelophehad’s Daughters | Why I Do Want to Believe in Heavenly Mother

Zelophehad’s Daughters | Why I Do Want to Believe in Heavenly Mother — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 20:09:31 +0000

[...] couple of years ago, I wrote a post titled “Why I Don’t Want to Believe In Heavenly Mother.” Basically, I argued that our teachings about Heavenly Mother in their current form raise more [...]

By: ClobberBlog » W&A: Notes on Chapter 1

ClobberBlog » W&A: Notes on Chapter 1 — Fri, 14 May 2010 00:38:54 +0000

[...] discussion of Chapter 1 (2006) fMh discussion of Chapter 1 (2010) Why I Don’t Want to Believe in Heavenly Mother Is There a Place for Heavenly Mother in Mormon [...]

By: Tatiana

Tatiana — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:42:17 +0000

My feelings about Heavenly Mother continue to evolve, but I think one reason we don’t see her more clearly is that we’re still a part of her spirit body in some way. That is, I think we as a species have yet to be born, in some crucial sense. So we don’t notice her or speak of her mainly because we’re still part of her or inside her or something. So it’s similar to the way a fish doesn’t think about water much.

Not sure if this makes sense to anyone else besides me…. =) Ignore the idea if it’s not helpful to you.

By: Judith LaBonte

Judith LaBonte — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:09:14 +0000

i was born R. Catholic, became Jewish due to an ex-husband, in the Reform Jewish tradition, ended up LDS, much to my surprise after exploring Wicca, Native American, secularized meditation based on Budhism, Yoga, etc. i’ve been here, it will be 19 years on 4/14/10.
One thing that sticks out in my mind is this: if Jesus was like us in every way except sin and called Rabbi, which has, for centuries in more traditional forms of Judaism meant that one MUST be married- because the first of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments) in the Torah/Pentateuch is “Go ye out and multiply” – the sanctity of motherhood, i believe in our Church also comes from that scripture in part. But i’ve long wondered WHO Jesus might have been married to? Is it Mary Magdalene as the Gnostic Gospels of the Nag Hammadi Library? (which were found buried in the earth like the Book of Mormon and the Dead Sea Scrolls) or is it someone else? or was He also different from us in not expressing His sexuality at all as well as in not sinning? i know Augustine of Catholicism implied reproduction was always tainted with sin since the Fall – one reason i left the RC tradition. But that just doesn’t go with LDS teaching too well, now does it?

Lately i think the more common LDS Woman – at least out East here among us mostly converts – is thinking about this more. i’ve heard two non-theologian and not very feminists teachers in R S make these comments: one said she wondered if “God’s wife had a name” and “if God had more than one wife”. i.e. she – a black lady and 2d generation LDS- was wondering if differences in race were due to their being separate Heavenly Moms for each race. Another spoke of Heavenly Mother as if she knew Her personally and they were “bff” – and someone else i know – a convert who has moved to UT told me she prays to Heavenly Mother, despite what the G.A. tell us that we should not, because she FEELS at a gut level that Heavenly Father either does not care for Her or is too busy. These are average women and mothers in 2 of the 3, who would not call themselves feminists. i do think maybe if the Church doesn’t address it, those of us who are not trained in theology may be birthing our own revelations and that these, even when they do not agree, will come forth from the ordinary women – because nature and i suspect the super-natural realms, abhor a vacuum. For example i’ve found several R S sisters who pray the rosary as they don’t know any more LDS Mormon way to connect with the Divine Feminine, so to speak. i agree – i have a hole in my heart that can only be filled by Her, and if my mind isn’t given the answer, my gut and imagination take over. It’s not just the theologians, male or female arguing anymore. The average woman is looking for answers that feed her soul as well as her mind.

This concerns me as a young gal who calls me “mom” in the Church, a young mother (single) recently went into Wicca because she couldn’t get straight answers for the ordinary female in the Church. i couldn’t tell her this is wrong, because i can find no answers myself.

By: Lindsay

Lindsay — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:18:57 +0000

I realize this post is long dead, but I really find fault in some of TomGuerro’s and others’ logic. We know God’s works and worlds and creations and posterity are endless. So while, after our final judgement, there may not be a 100 men to 100 women ratio (1:1), I’m sure God’s got a bunch more sons or daughters on the way. Or maybe he can ship a few in from other worlds. And I really don’t think it’s going to be a matter of “if I don’t make my husband marry my best friend she won’t get exaltation” kind of deal–how much would that suck for the best friend? To feel like the last, unwanted cookie on the table? I really think that God has more in store for singles than that.

As far as whether there is or isn’t a HM, if there’s not, where does that leave us women? How can we aspire to be like God if that isn’t possible? Anyway, I agree with your questions and statements. Great post.

By: My Articles of Faith « The Exponent

My Articles of Faith « The Exponent — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:52:51 +0000

[...] awkward about using words like Goddess or insisting in a Heavenly Mother. At times, I’ve even doubted her existence. But now I really believe that it’s not so much that the Divine Feminine doesn’t exist, [...]

By: Charlotte

Charlotte — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:01:58 +0000

Lynnette: You pose a pretty tough question, and I admire your honesty.

TomGeuro: with all due respect (very little) – shut the —- up. The last thing any of us needs is the finger-wagging, issue-polarizing, and pointed questions you’ve shat out in your frivolous posts.