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		<title>By: jddaughter</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-59674</link>
		<dc:creator>jddaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>think=thing. I’m just gonna stop now. I’m only destroying my own reputation. *head on the desk*</description>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-59673</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>think=thing.  I&#039;m just gonna stop now.  I&#039;m only destroying my own reputation. *head on the desk*</description>
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		<title>By: jddaughter</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-59672</link>
		<dc:creator>jddaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is at least one absolutely unnecessary parenthesis and two missing periods in the quote below.  I blame my computer...and stress level.  So sue me. (Please don&#039;t sue me...I&#039;m very poor.  I&#039;m a 22 year-old teacher.) 
Also, Eve...while you say you could teach circles around that student of yours ( and I know I might say the same think), teaching college is a whole different ball-game then teaching elementary school children, and there is a lot of theory involved and procedure, and teaching 5-7 subjects every day accommodated for individual learners.  
So, I&#039;m not really sure you could.  Not to suggest that you couldn&#039;t write thesis statements around her though.  You sound pretty competent in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is at least one absolutely unnecessary parenthesis and two missing periods in the quote below.  I blame my computer&#8230;and stress level.  So sue me. (Please don&#8217;t sue me&#8230;I&#8217;m very poor.  I&#8217;m a 22 year-old teacher.)<br />
Also, Eve&#8230;while you say you could teach circles around that student of yours ( and I know I might say the same think), teaching college is a whole different ball-game then teaching elementary school children, and there is a lot of theory involved and procedure, and teaching 5-7 subjects every day accommodated for individual learners.<br />
So, I&#8217;m not really sure you could.  Not to suggest that you couldn&#8217;t write thesis statements around her though.  You sound pretty competent in that.</p>
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		<title>By: jddaughter</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-59671</link>
		<dc:creator>jddaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Education Major (let it be said...that I was a poli sci major first- have excellent marks, great test scores and I currently have an internship at a GT magnet school in the second highest ranked district in the country...and I still sometimes, obnoxiously believe that I am way too smart for this major and feel superior to many of my peers, though I probably shouldn&#039;t).  I went kicking and screaming into this major, but God told me to do it.) whose first day of teaching is tomorrow, I will be the first to say that teaching starts in the home.  
Don&#039;t knock teachers until you have a room of 35 screaming children, all of different educational levels, most of whom don&#039;t want to learn- while you are saddled with funding, about a million specific educational standards you must fit into a year, and legal limits to what you can do with your children ( I can&#039;t drive them down to a museum, or hike with them up a canyon on a weekend.  I can&#039;t mention current political problems for discussion or keep teaching them late into the night if they need it.)
All the while, depending on the parent, I am to be the arts and crafts specialist , interior designer( being, bizarrely, judged on the quality of my bulletin boards), babysitter and psychologist.
Here me out.  My job is to teach your kid to read and write.  
You teach your kids at home- build in them a passion for learning.  Take them to a museum, and the beach.  Talk to them about what is important to them, and show them how to find out more.  But, just so you know...there is at least one Feminist Mormon Elementary School teacher around here who can write a thesis and got a lovely score on the ACT, and on CPAS ( the teaching quality observation assessment).  Give me your feminist Mormon children!  Just excuse the bulletin board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Education Major (let it be said&#8230;that I was a poli sci major first- have excellent marks, great test scores and I currently have an internship at a GT magnet school in the second highest ranked district in the country&#8230;and I still sometimes, obnoxiously believe that I am way too smart for this major and feel superior to many of my peers, though I probably shouldn&#8217;t).  I went kicking and screaming into this major, but God told me to do it.) whose first day of teaching is tomorrow, I will be the first to say that teaching starts in the home.<br />
Don&#8217;t knock teachers until you have a room of 35 screaming children, all of different educational levels, most of whom don&#8217;t want to learn- while you are saddled with funding, about a million specific educational standards you must fit into a year, and legal limits to what you can do with your children ( I can&#8217;t drive them down to a museum, or hike with them up a canyon on a weekend.  I can&#8217;t mention current political problems for discussion or keep teaching them late into the night if they need it.)<br />
All the while, depending on the parent, I am to be the arts and crafts specialist , interior designer( being, bizarrely, judged on the quality of my bulletin boards), babysitter and psychologist.<br />
Here me out.  My job is to teach your kid to read and write.<br />
You teach your kids at home- build in them a passion for learning.  Take them to a museum, and the beach.  Talk to them about what is important to them, and show them how to find out more.  But, just so you know&#8230;there is at least one Feminist Mormon Elementary School teacher around here who can write a thesis and got a lovely score on the ACT, and on CPAS ( the teaching quality observation assessment).  Give me your feminist Mormon children!  Just excuse the bulletin board.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, the irony. *phonological* processing disorders</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-59668</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad this thread was resurrected. I have been thinking about these issues a lot lately. I VT a 19 year old girl who was homeschooled her whole life. I agree with mindy 53 - she is a carbon copy of her parents. I think that the problem with homeschooling in her case is that she was never exposed to anything else. My 10 year old exceeds her developmentally in all areas - ability to work, reading and writing, social skills, hygiene. I don&#039;t think that this is her fault. She is a bright girl, but she has not been pushed or taught what is appropriate. Her situation is completely bizarre, and I am at a loss. I worry about her. (And yet she has this superior attitude and seems to think she knows everything. She might if she was 4.)

That said, I have considered homeschooling my second child. He is very bright but hates school. We&#039;ve tested him for all sorts of stuff. He got into speech for next year. I also got him into the dyslexic program (he is a gifted dyslexic, which means that he performs at grade level because he can compensate enough for his weaknesses, but he should be performing at a higher level based on his IQ). I am hoping that these programs will help him.  If not, I will likely pull him out and homeschool for a bit because I don&#039;t think keeping him in school is worth the damage done by how much he hates it. I want him to continue to love learning - not shut down. But, I would likely need to find some kind of private program to help because I don&#039;t know how to teach a child with phonoligical processing disorders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad this thread was resurrected. I have been thinking about these issues a lot lately. I VT a 19 year old girl who was homeschooled her whole life. I agree with mindy 53 &#8211; she is a carbon copy of her parents. I think that the problem with homeschooling in her case is that she was never exposed to anything else. My 10 year old exceeds her developmentally in all areas &#8211; ability to work, reading and writing, social skills, hygiene. I don&#8217;t think that this is her fault. She is a bright girl, but she has not been pushed or taught what is appropriate. Her situation is completely bizarre, and I am at a loss. I worry about her. (And yet she has this superior attitude and seems to think she knows everything. She might if she was 4.)</p>
<p>That said, I have considered homeschooling my second child. He is very bright but hates school. We&#8217;ve tested him for all sorts of stuff. He got into speech for next year. I also got him into the dyslexic program (he is a gifted dyslexic, which means that he performs at grade level because he can compensate enough for his weaknesses, but he should be performing at a higher level based on his IQ). I am hoping that these programs will help him.  If not, I will likely pull him out and homeschool for a bit because I don&#8217;t think keeping him in school is worth the damage done by how much he hates it. I want him to continue to love learning &#8211; not shut down. But, I would likely need to find some kind of private program to help because I don&#8217;t know how to teach a child with phonoligical processing disorders.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessawhy</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-38747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessawhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,
What a great post! It&#039;s nice to hear from normal homeschooled people :)
My most normal cousins (not the incarcerated ones or the ones with mental illness) were homeschooled, as was a girl who is in my husband&#039;s MBA program (she&#039;s a devout Catholic).  Apparently she&#039;s the smartest and easiest to get along with of all of his colleagues.
It&#039;s good to hear from someone who knows about the subject, and who also struggled most in elementary school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,<br />
What a great post! It&#8217;s nice to hear from normal homeschooled people <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
My most normal cousins (not the incarcerated ones or the ones with mental illness) were homeschooled, as was a girl who is in my husband&#8217;s MBA program (she&#8217;s a devout Catholic).  Apparently she&#8217;s the smartest and easiest to get along with of all of his colleagues.<br />
It&#8217;s good to hear from someone who knows about the subject, and who also struggled most in elementary school.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-38737</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I think there have been 53 comments and I don&#039;t think any of them came from a homeschooled kid.  Now I feel all, like, obligated.  ^_^

Homeschooling was a life saver for me.  I would have been incredibly miserable in high school or junior high school -- it was borderline in my public elementary school, which only worked for me because the teachers and students were expected to keep up this culture of high attainment and intellectualism (it was a gifted program.)  The parts of my day that I hated were the twenty minutes before school started, the twenty minutes we had for recess, the hour we had for lunch, and the two hours between the time that school ended and my dad came to pick me up.  In the intervening periods we did things like bury civilizations we&#039;d made up ourselves, then dug up a different class&#039; civilization and try to figure out all its secrets.  I wrote a history book in a made-up language and got school credit for burying it in a hole!  Yay!  Unfortunately I was moved out of that district and the folks in our new town wanted me to go from 6th grade to 9th grade.  Right.

Anyway, homeschooling let me have all the bits of school that I liked, and none of the stuff that kept me up till 5am worrying (I can&#039;t be the only kid who was more anxious about recess than the math test.)  I also finally had the time and energy and interest in doing things with other kids: people my age were no longer presumed monsters to be avoided at all costs, and as a bonus, if one of them decided to be horrible, I could just find a different activity to enjoy.  Without them around.  Ever again.  Except at church, but that was only four hours a week, which beats 36+ hands down.  And the adult-to-kid ratio was in my favor.  Plus most of those girls did eventually apologize, albeit to my mother rather than to me.

It probably isn&#039;t for everyone (I find a lot of the arguments less than persuasive, but I&#039;m not a home education evangelist so I don&#039;t have a lot invested,) but every aspect of public school that didn&#039;t resemble homeschooling, was torture to me.  As a bonus, once we started homeschooling I got to do a lot of things I really wanted to do, and some things I didn&#039;t know I wanted to do till I had the opportunity (like volunteer at a reenactment site.)  Part of me was always a little &quot;man, I wish I could have gone to Polytechnic&quot; and when my friends went off to the Columbus School for Girls I was jealous, but I know that it was better for me, psychologically, to be homeschooled.

Anyway, if I ever have kids, the assumption will be that we&#039;re educating at home, and alternatives will be considered if that doesn&#039;t work out.  I&#039;m not worried about them becoming freaks or not learning the things they need to, and if they were in public school I&#039;d be annoyed at the amount of time they&#039;d be wasting and the social nonsense no one should have to put up with.  Torture as our only shared cultural experience?  Thanks, but I&#039;ll just be okay with being weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I think there have been 53 comments and I don&#8217;t think any of them came from a homeschooled kid.  Now I feel all, like, obligated.  ^_^</p>
<p>Homeschooling was a life saver for me.  I would have been incredibly miserable in high school or junior high school &#8212; it was borderline in my public elementary school, which only worked for me because the teachers and students were expected to keep up this culture of high attainment and intellectualism (it was a gifted program.)  The parts of my day that I hated were the twenty minutes before school started, the twenty minutes we had for recess, the hour we had for lunch, and the two hours between the time that school ended and my dad came to pick me up.  In the intervening periods we did things like bury civilizations we&#8217;d made up ourselves, then dug up a different class&#8217; civilization and try to figure out all its secrets.  I wrote a history book in a made-up language and got school credit for burying it in a hole!  Yay!  Unfortunately I was moved out of that district and the folks in our new town wanted me to go from 6th grade to 9th grade.  Right.</p>
<p>Anyway, homeschooling let me have all the bits of school that I liked, and none of the stuff that kept me up till 5am worrying (I can&#8217;t be the only kid who was more anxious about recess than the math test.)  I also finally had the time and energy and interest in doing things with other kids: people my age were no longer presumed monsters to be avoided at all costs, and as a bonus, if one of them decided to be horrible, I could just find a different activity to enjoy.  Without them around.  Ever again.  Except at church, but that was only four hours a week, which beats 36+ hands down.  And the adult-to-kid ratio was in my favor.  Plus most of those girls did eventually apologize, albeit to my mother rather than to me.</p>
<p>It probably isn&#8217;t for everyone (I find a lot of the arguments less than persuasive, but I&#8217;m not a home education evangelist so I don&#8217;t have a lot invested,) but every aspect of public school that didn&#8217;t resemble homeschooling, was torture to me.  As a bonus, once we started homeschooling I got to do a lot of things I really wanted to do, and some things I didn&#8217;t know I wanted to do till I had the opportunity (like volunteer at a reenactment site.)  Part of me was always a little &#8220;man, I wish I could have gone to Polytechnic&#8221; and when my friends went off to the Columbus School for Girls I was jealous, but I know that it was better for me, psychologically, to be homeschooled.</p>
<p>Anyway, if I ever have kids, the assumption will be that we&#8217;re educating at home, and alternatives will be considered if that doesn&#8217;t work out.  I&#8217;m not worried about them becoming freaks or not learning the things they need to, and if they were in public school I&#8217;d be annoyed at the amount of time they&#8217;d be wasting and the social nonsense no one should have to put up with.  Torture as our only shared cultural experience?  Thanks, but I&#8217;ll just be okay with being weird.</p>
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		<title>By: mindy</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/11/04/homeschooling-reservations/#comment-38697</link>
		<dc:creator>mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One opinion I have read, which I think sums it up nicely, is that children will tend to be as competent or incompetent socially as their parents.  I&#039;m guessing the parents of the loud-mouthed, socially inept student were similarly cursed.  Of course, you will get the odd child who is completely opposite the parents, but I really think socialization and social skills are a case where the apple rarely falls far from the tree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One opinion I have read, which I think sums it up nicely, is that children will tend to be as competent or incompetent socially as their parents.  I&#8217;m guessing the parents of the loud-mouthed, socially inept student were similarly cursed.  Of course, you will get the odd child who is completely opposite the parents, but I really think socialization and social skills are a case where the apple rarely falls far from the tree.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessawhy, congratulations on the new baby, and good luck with your kids.  I&#039;m glad that you have found a solution that is working.</description>
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