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		<title>By: Lynnette</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14769</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for all the comments; I&#039;ve really enjoyed hearing different people&#039;s perspectives and stories.  I particularly appreciated the various thoughts on why God perhaps doesn&#039;t answer prayers--that maybe we&#039;re not in a place where we could comprehend the answer, that maybe we&#039;re part of something larger, that maybe there are other ways of phrasing the question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kaliki (#12) said:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;So why bother to ask him for anything, because he will give us what he wills, and no more. This makes me very sad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve had similar thoughts, kind of along the lines of, if God is going to do what he&#039;s planning anyway, what&#039;s the point?  Is prayer just supposed to be something like, &quot;do what you were already going to do?&quot;  But I&#039;m very drawn to the possibility that our interactions with God don&#039;t just affect us (though clearly they do), but in some way they affect him as well.  As I think Kiskilili recently brought up on a different thread here, there&#039;s an Old Testament tradition of arguing with God, and God genuinely responding--even changing his mind at times.  I like that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since I seem to be in a mood to tell faith-promoting stories (I know, I know, you all think you&#039;re on the wrong blog ;)), I&#039;ll share another anecdote.   (And I should probably first confess that I&#039;ve been known to make fun of the LDS tendency to compare life experiences to the gospel--e.g., &quot;I was walking down the street and I saw a tree, and I thought, this is just like the plan of salvation.&quot;  But as this story will illustrate, I do it too.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, one of my roommates in college was taking a math class and she was having a hard time with it.  It happened to be material that I was pretty familiar with, and I was happy to explain stuff when she occasionally asked me questions about it.  I distinctly remember sitting at the kitchen table one evening and watching her work.  She was clearly struggling.  And I wanted to offer to help, but I felt weird about doing so; I was afraid of how it might come across, that it would seem condescending.  In the context of our relationship, I felt like I needed to let her ask for help if and when she wanted it.  And it  hit me with real force that God might very well see me in a similar light, that at times he perhaps really couldn&#039;t help if I didn&#039;t first request it.  Somehow that gave me a different perspective on the having to ask requirement, which I&#039;d sometimes seen as an arbitrary and even silly hoop to jump through.  But that night I had a very strong sense that God wanted to help much more than I was allowing him to, and that my role in the relationship was a relevant one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roasted Tomatoes (#4) suggests:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Although I don&#039;t know if I believe it, I&#039;m attracted by the idea that God sometimes acts in ways deliberately designed to remind us how little we know about Him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I like that, too.  I know how easy it is for me to think I&#039;ve come to some sophisticated understanding of a religious principle, only to have my beautiful theory fall short when it comes to accounting for the messy reality of life experience.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments; I&#8217;ve really enjoyed hearing different people&#8217;s perspectives and stories.  I particularly appreciated the various thoughts on why God perhaps doesn&#8217;t answer prayers&#8211;that maybe we&#8217;re not in a place where we could comprehend the answer, that maybe we&#8217;re part of something larger, that maybe there are other ways of phrasing the question.</p>
<p>Kaliki (#12) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>So why bother to ask him for anything, because he will give us what he wills, and no more. This makes me very sad.</p></blockquote>
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I&#8217;ve had similar thoughts, kind of along the lines of, if God is going to do what he&#8217;s planning anyway, what&#8217;s the point?  Is prayer just supposed to be something like, &#8220;do what you were already going to do?&#8221;  But I&#8217;m very drawn to the possibility that our interactions with God don&#8217;t just affect us (though clearly they do), but in some way they affect him as well.  As I think Kiskilili recently brought up on a different thread here, there&#8217;s an Old Testament tradition of arguing with God, and God genuinely responding&#8211;even changing his mind at times.  I like that.</p>
<p>Since I seem to be in a mood to tell faith-promoting stories (I know, I know, you all think you&#8217;re on the wrong blog <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ), I&#8217;ll share another anecdote.   (And I should probably first confess that I&#8217;ve been known to make fun of the LDS tendency to compare life experiences to the gospel&#8211;e.g., &#8220;I was walking down the street and I saw a tree, and I thought, this is just like the plan of salvation.&#8221;  But as this story will illustrate, I do it too.)</p>
<p>Anyway, one of my roommates in college was taking a math class and she was having a hard time with it.  It happened to be material that I was pretty familiar with, and I was happy to explain stuff when she occasionally asked me questions about it.  I distinctly remember sitting at the kitchen table one evening and watching her work.  She was clearly struggling.  And I wanted to offer to help, but I felt weird about doing so; I was afraid of how it might come across, that it would seem condescending.  In the context of our relationship, I felt like I needed to let her ask for help if and when she wanted it.  And it  hit me with real force that God might very well see me in a similar light, that at times he perhaps really couldn&#8217;t help if I didn&#8217;t first request it.  Somehow that gave me a different perspective on the having to ask requirement, which I&#8217;d sometimes seen as an arbitrary and even silly hoop to jump through.  But that night I had a very strong sense that God wanted to help much more than I was allowing him to, and that my role in the relationship was a relevant one.</p>
<p>Roasted Tomatoes (#4) suggests:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although I don&#8217;t know if I believe it, I&#8217;m attracted by the idea that God sometimes acts in ways deliberately designed to remind us how little we know about Him.</p></blockquote>
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I like that, too.  I know how easy it is for me to think I&#8217;ve come to some sophisticated understanding of a religious principle, only to have my beautiful theory fall short when it comes to accounting for the messy reality of life experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14435</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 06:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciated this post.  It&#039;s something I really struggle with - recognizing answers to prayers..  Thanks for such a thoughtful piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciated this post.  It&#8217;s something I really struggle with &#8211; recognizing answers to prayers..  Thanks for such a thoughtful piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14397</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doh!  Make that &quot;Lynnette&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh!  Make that &#8220;Lynnette&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14396</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post too Lynette.  You&#039;re on a roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post too Lynette.  You&#8217;re on a roll.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather O.</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14392</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prayer is tricky, no question.  I&#039;ve definitely had prayers answered, and well, some, not so much.  And I get the whole &quot;lost item&quot; prayer.  I even had a profound spiritual experience while looking for a (wait for it) contact lens.  I was on vacation, without any back up, and, as I&#039;m totally blind without them, completely desperate. Seems like He could use something else besides a contact lens.  Then again, maybe I was just listening better?  Maybe I needed it so badly I was willing to open myself up? Or maybe He decided that me finding my contact wouldn&#039;t disrupt the cosmos too much, and hey, why NOT use the moment to teach me a valuable principle. 

 Or maybe it was a coincidence. But like you said, Lynette, it&#039;s hard to deny things like this.  And it does bring me comfort that if He is listening when I need my contact lens, He is listening when the stakes are much higher.  I might not understand what is going on in the greater scheme, but it&#039;s nice to know I&#039;m not forsaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prayer is tricky, no question.  I&#8217;ve definitely had prayers answered, and well, some, not so much.  And I get the whole &#8220;lost item&#8221; prayer.  I even had a profound spiritual experience while looking for a (wait for it) contact lens.  I was on vacation, without any back up, and, as I&#8217;m totally blind without them, completely desperate. Seems like He could use something else besides a contact lens.  Then again, maybe I was just listening better?  Maybe I needed it so badly I was willing to open myself up? Or maybe He decided that me finding my contact wouldn&#8217;t disrupt the cosmos too much, and hey, why NOT use the moment to teach me a valuable principle. </p>
<p> Or maybe it was a coincidence. But like you said, Lynette, it&#8217;s hard to deny things like this.  And it does bring me comfort that if He is listening when I need my contact lens, He is listening when the stakes are much higher.  I might not understand what is going on in the greater scheme, but it&#8217;s nice to know I&#8217;m not forsaken.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaliki</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14319</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaliki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going through a tough period right now over these very issues, so thanks for bringing it up.  I believe God knows us very well, knows our past and future, and knows what is best for us in the long run.  The concept of not receiving blessings irks me though, it smacks of &quot;Beg, Rover. Beg!&quot;  I think God&#039;s plans and mind are so immense we have no chance of understanding any of it. However, he made us as we are, human, with the wishes and desires that we have as humans. So why bother to ask him for anything, because he will give us what he wills, and no more.  This makes me very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going through a tough period right now over these very issues, so thanks for bringing it up.  I believe God knows us very well, knows our past and future, and knows what is best for us in the long run.  The concept of not receiving blessings irks me though, it smacks of &#8220;Beg, Rover. Beg!&#8221;  I think God&#8217;s plans and mind are so immense we have no chance of understanding any of it. However, he made us as we are, human, with the wishes and desires that we have as humans. So why bother to ask him for anything, because he will give us what he wills, and no more.  This makes me very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14280</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, Bookslinger. You have made me realize, yet again, that I am a veritable sinning machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, Bookslinger. You have made me realize, yet again, that I am a veritable sinning machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14265</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/82/3/#1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;... he who sins against the greater light shall receive the greater condemnation&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/82/3/#1

That could be another reason we don&#039;t receive answers. Heavenly Father doesn&#039;t want to condemn us by giving us more knowledge than what we are ready/willing to obey.

Related:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/james/4/17#17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.&lt;/a&gt;

and &lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/luke/12/47#45&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/luke/12/47#45&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/82/3/#1" rel="nofollow">&#8220;&#8230; he who sins against the greater light shall receive the greater condemnation&#8221;</a></p>
<p><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/82/3/#1" rel="nofollow">http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/82/3/#1</a></p>
<p>That could be another reason we don&#8217;t receive answers. Heavenly Father doesn&#8217;t want to condemn us by giving us more knowledge than what we are ready/willing to obey.</p>
<p>Related:<br />
<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/james/4/17#17" rel="nofollow"><br />
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.</a></p>
<p>and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/luke/12/47#45" rel="nofollow">http://scriptures.lds.org/en/luke/12/47#45</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14230</link>
		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think one of the trickiest things with regard to prayer is figuring out the right question. For example, a yes-no question is potentially problematic. We seem to love a good courtroom drama scene where the judge (or attorney) imperiously commands the out-maneuvered witness to, &quot;Answer the question, yes or no!&quot; But many questions cannot be answered completely and honestly with either a yes or a no. By not allowing qualifiers, the witness is actually maneuvered into committing perjury. There are also other forms of questions besides the yes-no variety that can be problematic. Therefore, depending on how we phrase a question, we may be limiting God&#039;s ability to clearly respond to us, and because he can&#039;t lie or misrepresent the truth, He says nothing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When my prayerful petitions aren&#039;t answered after a reasonable amount of time, I find it often helps to re-examine my question. Sometimes by simply re-wording my question, I have gone from the &quot;heavens being silent&quot; to being &quot;instructed by the spirit.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like Beijing, I think this is why the &quot;where did I put my watch&quot; query is so readily answered; it has a fairly easy and straight-forward answer. Er...unless your one-year-old flushed it down the toilet (yep, been there).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the trickiest things with regard to prayer is figuring out the right question. For example, a yes-no question is potentially problematic. We seem to love a good courtroom drama scene where the judge (or attorney) imperiously commands the out-maneuvered witness to, &#8220;Answer the question, yes or no!&#8221; But many questions cannot be answered completely and honestly with either a yes or a no. By not allowing qualifiers, the witness is actually maneuvered into committing perjury. There are also other forms of questions besides the yes-no variety that can be problematic. Therefore, depending on how we phrase a question, we may be limiting God&#8217;s ability to clearly respond to us, and because he can&#8217;t lie or misrepresent the truth, He says nothing. </p>
<p>When my prayerful petitions aren&#8217;t answered after a reasonable amount of time, I find it often helps to re-examine my question. Sometimes by simply re-wording my question, I have gone from the &#8220;heavens being silent&#8221; to being &#8220;instructed by the spirit.&#8221; </p>
<p>Like Beijing, I think this is why the &#8220;where did I put my watch&#8221; query is so readily answered; it has a fairly easy and straight-forward answer. Er&#8230;unless your one-year-old flushed it down the toilet (yep, been there).</p>
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		<title>By: Beijing</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2007/02/16/lost-things/#comment-14183</link>
		<dc:creator>Beijing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be possible that you were the one who last put down the object you were looking for? Or possible that you had gotten a glimpse of it in its wrong location or heard a hint of where it might have fallen, some time before the prayer? If so, its location may have been in your memory, and prayer allowed God to unlock what you already knew but were having difficulty remembering. Similar to the way God can help you recall information for a test that you&#039;ve studied for.

However, you might have to do the legwork yourself to unlock the answers to things that you *don&#039;t* know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be possible that you were the one who last put down the object you were looking for? Or possible that you had gotten a glimpse of it in its wrong location or heard a hint of where it might have fallen, some time before the prayer? If so, its location may have been in your memory, and prayer allowed God to unlock what you already knew but were having difficulty remembering. Similar to the way God can help you recall information for a test that you&#8217;ve studied for.</p>
<p>However, you might have to do the legwork yourself to unlock the answers to things that you *don&#8217;t* know.</p>
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