Comments on: Christian Masculinity

By: Zelophehad’s Daughters | What Is Priesthood?

Zelophehad’s Daughters | What Is Priesthood? — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:31:11 +0000

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By: J. Nelson-Seawright

J. Nelson-Seawright — Wed, 20 May 2009 20:26:11 +0000

N G Laing, a clear majority of the gay men that I’ve known well are definitely masculine, strong in both the physical and emotional senses, and courageous in ways that straight men in America are rarely given the opportunity to be. (Not that many of us are ever in a position to be disowned by our parents for honesty.) You might want to check your assumptions.

By: Kiskilili

Kiskilili — Wed, 20 May 2009 20:07:12 +0000

What makes you so sure straight men are courageous and gay men aren’t?

I dislike the term “effeminate.” I don’t see how showing emotion or compassion is a sign of weakness.

By: N G Laing

N G Laing — Tue, 19 May 2009 01:10:12 +0000

Ok Kiskilili, your choice, however I think you need to look up manly in the dictionary- it means masculine, strong , courageous, but if you want your effeminate gay man then go for it.

By: Kiskilili

Kiskilili — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:11:24 +0000

Okay. I’ll take the gay men. There’s nothing remotely appealing to me about a “manly” man.

By: N G Laing

N G Laing — Sat, 16 May 2009 17:46:26 +0000

Kiskilili, just one more blog on this subject, (sorry for the above double blog as I didn’t think it had gone through on the first submit).

Make a mental and emotional picture here, I am sure that at some point in your life you have come across men who were kind and gentle and yet looked and acted strong and manly.

How did they make you feel about yourself as a person and about them?

Now picture any egotistical macho male you may have had the chance to meet and how they acted and made you feel as a person and about them?

Now picture a gay effeminate male and how they acted and looked and made you feel about yourself as a person and about them?

Now who of the three is the manly, masculine male and who would you prefer to associate with when associating with the male gender?

I leave this with you because only you can decide the quality of character of the male you prefer to associate with.

By: N G Laing

N G Laing — Sat, 16 May 2009 16:59:39 +0000

Kiskilili, I have seen many men who have embodied the above stated qualities which macho men may try and regard as not manly and yet these males remain gentle and kind etc. yet strong and manly, not effeminate like a lot of gays come off to be. Perez Hilton is a self pronounced gay, yet did he embody the kind, gentle, patient, charitable qualities towards Carrie Prejean that macho men seem to wrongly hold as gay and effeminate or female characteristics? No he showed himself to be an egotistical, uncharitable, unkind, selfish, self centered, ungentle and disparaging person, instead of honoring her honest opinion, thereby showing that he likewise is a bigot, and that he has no true masculinity either. The female gender as a whole, but not individually, has much more of the Christlike qualities down to a finer art than the male gender. As I said in my previous blog these character qualities are from Christ and are universal to both male and female nature for the good and the peace of humankind. Both genders are expected by Christ to embody them in their souls in their respective gender spheres, which will neither detract from their masculinity or femininity regardless of the gender they are of.

By: N G Laing

N G Laing — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:34:30 +0000

Unfortunately too many people especially males, equate masculinity with egotistical machoism. True masculinity is gentle , kind , considerate, loving, self sacrificing, not putting ones self above others, patient, charitable to others, etc. Christ embodied all the above masculine qualities and more without being feminine. You see God expects both men and women to embody these qualities of character as they are universal to the good of human nature in both genders. So yes Jesus can say that females also embody all of his character qualities and yet they remain female. Unfortunately males would rather remain selfish and macho, have you ever seen an egotistical male who wasn’t selfish, self centered, unkind etc., because I’ve seen many like this who are macho but not manly or having true masculinity.

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By: Lilith

Lilith — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:49:54 +0000

Megan:
Your insight concerning the serpent is a fascinating one. I would love to hear more about it. I have always felt that the oppression of women has been the work of Satan and NOT of God. Perhaps we could continue this conversation on a seperate entry?

As for Kiskilili’s comment this is a great one and tough. So much of our society is built upon gender construction. Eg. Having a penis means being strong and playing the provider/leader role. Having a vagina means being submissive and playing the nurture/mother role. If Christ did both, and He is our example, where does this gender construcion come in? How can this be backed up by the scriptures. Furthermore, how can a document like “The Proclamation on the Family” assign women the “nurturing” role and men the “provider” role when it’s obvious that Christ did both, and He was a man? I have a lot of questions concerning that document.
Also, and this might be a little off topic, but I would like to get peoples opinions on this.
What about homosexuality?
I have many a friend who has told me quite bluntly that they would prefer to have female sexual partners but that they act to “gay” to ever have a girlfriend. So it seems they have to choose between who they are and their sexual orientation. To be feminine AND heterosexual is simply not a category our society, and for that matter, the church, has allotted. It is documents like the Proclamation that seem to further these stereotypes and push more feminine men and more masculine women to the fringes and away from the gospel. This doesn’t sound like the inclusive love that Christ preached. Thoughts?