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	<title>Comments on: Scripture Marking</title>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-12298</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think that writing in your scriptures is that big of a deal. I know that they are sacred, but its a way to remember all of the feelings that you felt when you read it. I know that because I write my thoughts and feelings in my scriptures, it has helped me a lot and I love doing it. :D I hope that all you who are against this will just take into perspective the fact that its YOUR scriptures, and you don&#039;t have to tell anybody what you do to them. Enjoy them and get inspired. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think that writing in your scriptures is that big of a deal. I know that they are sacred, but its a way to remember all of the feelings that you felt when you read it. I know that because I write my thoughts and feelings in my scriptures, it has helped me a lot and I love doing it. <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I hope that all you who are against this will just take into perspective the fact that its YOUR scriptures, and you don&#8217;t have to tell anybody what you do to them. Enjoy them and get inspired. <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience is close to what RT, JWL, and Eve describe.  It is embarassing for me to read my missionary scriptures and see the things I once thought were important.  Lots of passages were marked in red for the sole purpose of proving Adventists and JWs wrong.  It is humiliating to realize the extent to which I was a kind of bully, a spiritual goon who got a little enjoyment out of laying the smackdown on people.  Like Ziff, I now prefer to read online, and keep an online journal of the thoughts and impressions that come to me as I read.  And an online journal has the advantage over a pen and paper one in that the online version can be edited.  Ink on paper is forever, which is why my missionary journal has gone to dwell in everlasting burnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience is close to what RT, JWL, and Eve describe.  It is embarassing for me to read my missionary scriptures and see the things I once thought were important.  Lots of passages were marked in red for the sole purpose of proving Adventists and JWs wrong.  It is humiliating to realize the extent to which I was a kind of bully, a spiritual goon who got a little enjoyment out of laying the smackdown on people.  Like Ziff, I now prefer to read online, and keep an online journal of the thoughts and impressions that come to me as I read.  And an online journal has the advantage over a pen and paper one in that the online version can be edited.  Ink on paper is forever, which is why my missionary journal has gone to dwell in everlasting burnings.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnette</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to hear from another sympathetic perspective, AWS!

Like Rosalynde and Eve, I have a hard time reading things from a computer.  Though in my case it&#039;s (obviously!) not since I want to be able to mark things up--I just find it more difficult, though I&#039;m not entirely sure why.  I love that I can frequently look up articles and  access their full text online, without the bother of going to the library, but I find that if I really want to read (and not just skim) the article, I do better with a hard copy.  So I&#039;m impressed that you&#039;ve converted to reading straight off the computer, Ziff.

Eve, it was very kind of you to loan me your books, so I&#039;ve done my best not to look a gift book in the margins. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to hear from another sympathetic perspective, AWS!</p>
<p>Like Rosalynde and Eve, I have a hard time reading things from a computer.  Though in my case it&#8217;s (obviously!) not since I want to be able to mark things up&#8211;I just find it more difficult, though I&#8217;m not entirely sure why.  I love that I can frequently look up articles and  access their full text online, without the bother of going to the library, but I find that if I really want to read (and not just skim) the article, I do better with a hard copy.  So I&#8217;m impressed that you&#8217;ve converted to reading straight off the computer, Ziff.</p>
<p>Eve, it was very kind of you to loan me your books, so I&#8217;ve done my best not to look a gift book in the margins. <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: aws</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>aws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be a little late to chime in, but I feel the same way as Lynnette.  Marking scriptures is distracting and messy.  I do occasionally write in academic books, but only out of necessity.  Here is my rule of thumb:  If you only plan to read it once,  mark it.  For me, the scriptures fell out of that catagory years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a little late to chime in, but I feel the same way as Lynnette.  Marking scriptures is distracting and messy.  I do occasionally write in academic books, but only out of necessity.  Here is my rule of thumb:  If you only plan to read it once,  mark it.  For me, the scriptures fell out of that catagory years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziff</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that people tend to read more slowly from a computer monitor than from a hard copy, but I don&#039;t mind just reading and taking notes on the computer at the same time. The advantage is that I can add and remove highlights, marginal notes, and whatnot at will, and I know that a clean copy of the text is always just a few clicks away.

Another advantage is that my typed notes are always legible. The same cannot be said for my handwritten notes, particularly given how little space there is in the margins of scriptures (and I don&#039;t even use the tiny kind that you do, Lynnette!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that people tend to read more slowly from a computer monitor than from a hard copy, but I don&#8217;t mind just reading and taking notes on the computer at the same time. The advantage is that I can add and remove highlights, marginal notes, and whatnot at will, and I know that a clean copy of the text is always just a few clicks away.</p>
<p>Another advantage is that my typed notes are always legible. The same cannot be said for my handwritten notes, particularly given how little space there is in the margins of scriptures (and I don&#8217;t even use the tiny kind that you do, Lynnette!).</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1827</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosalynde, I have hard time reading things on the computer for the same reason. But as I think Roasted Tomatoes said, I have to admit that when I reread my marked-up books I&#039;m always stunned at the obviousness of my own comments. (Newsflash: pride bad! Baptism required for entrance to kingdom of heaven!) 

I keep a journal as part of my scripture study, but I&#039;ve decided the value is in the act of writing things down itself, which is somehow significant to me for reasons I don&#039;t completely understand. But what I&#039;ve written usually makes me cringe later. I guess that&#039;s the inevitable problem of journals. Treasure troves for scholars--minefields for authors. :&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosalynde, I have hard time reading things on the computer for the same reason. But as I think Roasted Tomatoes said, I have to admit that when I reread my marked-up books I&#8217;m always stunned at the obviousness of my own comments. (Newsflash: pride bad! Baptism required for entrance to kingdom of heaven!) </p>
<p>I keep a journal as part of my scripture study, but I&#8217;ve decided the value is in the act of writing things down itself, which is somehow significant to me for reasons I don&#8217;t completely understand. But what I&#8217;ve written usually makes me cringe later. I guess that&#8217;s the inevitable problem of journals. Treasure troves for scholars&#8211;minefields for authors. :></p>
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		<title>By: Rosalynde</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosalynde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hand-written  marginalia are an absolute treasure trove for historical textual scholars.

I personally must have a pencil in hand for any sort of productive reading---how on earth else do you remember the passages and points you need for later use?  Which is why I sort of hate reading things on the computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hand-written  marginalia are an absolute treasure trove for historical textual scholars.</p>
<p>I personally must have a pencil in hand for any sort of productive reading&#8212;how on earth else do you remember the passages and points you need for later use?  Which is why I sort of hate reading things on the computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynnette, I have to admit I took a DEEP breath before sending you a couple of my books a few months ago. waiting to hear you politely struggle not to be horrified at my extensive (and illegible) scrawlings. I&#039;m in treatment now, and I&#039;ve cut back to just a few underlinings and occasional notes. Heartfelt thanks to you and Kiskilili for not abandoning me to my addiction and for always setting such an impeccable example of textual purity.

;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynnette, I have to admit I took a DEEP breath before sending you a couple of my books a few months ago. waiting to hear you politely struggle not to be horrified at my extensive (and illegible) scrawlings. I&#8217;m in treatment now, and I&#8217;ve cut back to just a few underlinings and occasional notes. Heartfelt thanks to you and Kiskilili for not abandoning me to my addiction and for always setting such an impeccable example of textual purity.</p>
<p>;></p>
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		<title>By: Lynnette</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M&amp;M, MaioCampo, Floyd, Judy Jones--thanks for sharing your methods.  It&#039;s interesting to hear people&#039;s different approaches to this!

Serenity, the situation with my classmate was definitely a bizarre one.  The only thing I could think was that she was so caught up in paying attention to the lecture that she forgot that the book wasn&#039;t actually hers and just started taking notes out of habit.

Annegb, I might be horrified by your books, but then my own sister Eve--as she has confessed in this very thread--has been known to exhibit similar tendencies.  (And somehow Kiskilili and I, the purists of the family when it comes to writing in books, have managed  not to disown her.)

RT, that comment about later realizing your insights were actually inaccurate made me laugh--I&#039;ve had a similar experience!  But I like your point that the act of marking itself is for some people an important part of their devotional activity.  That seems to go along well with what Stephen said about it being a process of cooperative writing; when put like that, I can see its appeal.

Dave, I definitely agree that marking can be a substitute for actually engaging the text; my Seminary experience would back that up.  People reading the scriptures and marking what they find meaningful makes sense to me, even if I&#039;m personally iffy about it, but I&#039;m more than a little skeptical about the value of marking scriptures that someone else told you that you should find meaningful.

JWL, that&#039;s an interesting observation about fear of committing yourself to one interpretive position being a possible motivation.  I&#039;d never thought of that in this context, but I can identify a lot with that concern, so maybe there&#039;s more behind my behavior than I realized. ;)

Katya, it&#039;s good to hear from another member of the not-writing-in-books club.  And I really like the idea of linking scriptures to hymns.  Some of my favorite scriptures are my favorites because they have such good musical associations.

Kiskilili, that&#039;s a great story about the open-Bible test; I hadn&#039;t thought much about how this might play out in different religious traditions.  (As you know, we theologians don&#039;t crack our Bibles much, so this hasn&#039;t come up for me much in an academic context.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M&#038;M, MaioCampo, Floyd, Judy Jones&#8211;thanks for sharing your methods.  It&#8217;s interesting to hear people&#8217;s different approaches to this!</p>
<p>Serenity, the situation with my classmate was definitely a bizarre one.  The only thing I could think was that she was so caught up in paying attention to the lecture that she forgot that the book wasn&#8217;t actually hers and just started taking notes out of habit.</p>
<p>Annegb, I might be horrified by your books, but then my own sister Eve&#8211;as she has confessed in this very thread&#8211;has been known to exhibit similar tendencies.  (And somehow Kiskilili and I, the purists of the family when it comes to writing in books, have managed  not to disown her.)</p>
<p>RT, that comment about later realizing your insights were actually inaccurate made me laugh&#8211;I&#8217;ve had a similar experience!  But I like your point that the act of marking itself is for some people an important part of their devotional activity.  That seems to go along well with what Stephen said about it being a process of cooperative writing; when put like that, I can see its appeal.</p>
<p>Dave, I definitely agree that marking can be a substitute for actually engaging the text; my Seminary experience would back that up.  People reading the scriptures and marking what they find meaningful makes sense to me, even if I&#8217;m personally iffy about it, but I&#8217;m more than a little skeptical about the value of marking scriptures that someone else told you that you should find meaningful.</p>
<p>JWL, that&#8217;s an interesting observation about fear of committing yourself to one interpretive position being a possible motivation.  I&#8217;d never thought of that in this context, but I can identify a lot with that concern, so maybe there&#8217;s more behind my behavior than I realized. <img src='http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Katya, it&#8217;s good to hear from another member of the not-writing-in-books club.  And I really like the idea of linking scriptures to hymns.  Some of my favorite scriptures are my favorites because they have such good musical associations.</p>
<p>Kiskilili, that&#8217;s a great story about the open-Bible test; I hadn&#8217;t thought much about how this might play out in different religious traditions.  (As you know, we theologians don&#8217;t crack our Bibles much, so this hasn&#8217;t come up for me much in an academic context.)</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M (Ethesis)</title>
		<link>http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2006/07/14/scripture-marking/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen M (Ethesis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me a long time to learn to mark scriptures, to make the text a cooperative writing and reading, rather than a static one.

Still, I marked a number of cheap copies of the Book of Mormon in my time.

As I&#039;ve gotten older, books have become more consumeable to me.

But the scriptures, they are a cooperative writing, the marking in them my part of joining in the process of creating them with meaning in my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a long time to learn to mark scriptures, to make the text a cooperative writing and reading, rather than a static one.</p>
<p>Still, I marked a number of cheap copies of the Book of Mormon in my time.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve gotten older, books have become more consumeable to me.</p>
<p>But the scriptures, they are a cooperative writing, the marking in them my part of joining in the process of creating them with meaning in my life.</p>
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